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a fear of possible economic collapse is a recurring theme. speaker of the house john boehner seem interested in a compromise with democrats that could keep the country from plunging off the so-called fiscal cliff. while florida is still official officially too close to call even without its 29 collect 29 electoral college votes mr. obama won with a hefty 303 electoral votes but a mere 53% of the popular votes begging the question, was it a mandate or a draw. the president promised to reach out to leaders of both parties. speaker boehner appeared to be ready to take him up on his offer with hundreds of billions in tax hikes that could tank the economy, boehner staked out this position on behalf of his caucus. >> for the purposes of bipartisan agreement that begins to solve the problem we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. what matters is where the increase revenue comes from and what type of reform comes with it. >> eliot: a few hours earlier harry reid also called for compromise. >> it's better to dance than to fight. it's better to work together. everyth

in washington. >> i think the good news for the country is that john boehner and his president actually have a pretty good relationship. they like each other. that's a really good starting point. it's something you don't see in washington these days. and all you see between democrats and republicans is acrimony. i think boehner set a great signal yesterday. i think the person who called boehner yesterday and said let's get back to work is a big deal. >> i want to ask you. do the american voters really get the attention of the gop now? do they send a clear message that misogynistic, bigoted, homophobic candidate es just dot fly. how do they get the party back on track? >> losing does a lot more parties, and spending time in the desert does a lot toward figuring out how to get to water. the republican party obviously has a lot of work to do, but i'm encouraged they will get the message, that we understand we've got to be a larger tent. we can't continue to just go after a shrinking -- trying to expand a shrinking demographic and recognize we need more tolerance, more diversity, and more polici

in the first block, actually there was hope today. you had house speaker john boehner who actually opened a door that many people thought was shut. >> for the purposes of forging a bipartisan agreement that begins to solve the problem, we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. >> jennifer: what? so does speaker boehner mean what he says? here to answer that question and more, is host of "viewpoint," and former new york governor eliot spitzer. welcome inside "the war room." >> i like being here. >> jennifer: i was just railing about the far-right republicans -- >> i heard you from miles away. >> jennifer: but despite the denial, john boehner gave this statement today to suggest that revenue could be a part of a grand bargain. >> yes, but -- there was classic boehner and cantor. it was quintessential republican double talk. we are now at the moment where you have got to put your cards on the table if you are going to get an agreement. it's now november. >> jennifer: but put their card on the table by saying we would consider revenue -- they said it's

ahead to the fiscal cliff. john boehner has reiterated that the newly elected house republican majority is opposed to raising tax rates. they're willing to accept new revenue under certain conditions. what is your reaction to that? despite the pledge that most of them have signed? >> if we had a recovery the strength of reagan's recovery, there would be 10 million more americans at work today. but we take rate in's path of less spending and regulation, -- reagan's path of less spending and regulation, he has a million more americans at work today than obama does. i would rather have his recovery and all the revenue that flows from that. if you grew 4% a year instead of 2%. the difference between growing from 4% instead of 2% is $5 trillion in additional revenue to the federal government. nobody is talking but raising taxes $5 trillion. why not focus to reduce rates, have lower taxes, it to get more growth. you actually net more additional revenue. >> it seems like john boehner is now willing to get that revenue not just from the economic growth that is not scored by the congressional bu

suicide for the u.s. economy and so yesterday house speaker boehner and senate majority leader harry reid road tested some ideas for r reconciliati reconciliation. >> mr. president, this is your moment. we're ready to be led, not as democrats or republicans, but as americans. >> it's better to dance than to fight. it's better to work together. >> that all sounds pretty promising, but listen a little closer to speaker boehner's call for compromise and then you begin to hear a familiar tune. >> we aren't seeking to impose our will on the president. we're asking him to make good on his balanced approach. the president has called for a balanced approach to the deficit, a combination of spending cuts, increased ed revenues, but a balanced approach isn't balanced if it means higher taxes on small businesses that are the key to getting our economy moving again and keeping it moving. >> yes, you heard it. it's that same small business melody that we've heard from mitt romney for six years. now, thankfully silenced along with the strains of kid rock's "born free," except, of course, now the lead

reid and move on to john boehner. [video clip] >> they are tired of partisan gridlock. i have one goal, to be obama. obama was reelected overwhelmingly. republicans want us to work together. democrats want us to work together. they want to reach a balanced approach to everything, but especially the situation we have with the huge deficit. taxes are a part of that. >> the american people have spoken. they have reelected president obama, and every elected a republican majority. if there was a mandate, it is a mandate for us to find a way to work together on the solutions to the challenges we all face as a nation. my message today is not one of confrontation, but one of conviction. mr. president, this is your moment. we are ready to be led. not as democrats or republicans, but as americans. we want you to lead as president of the united states of america. we want you to succeed. let's challenge ourselves to find the common ground that has eluded us. let's do the right thing together for our country. host: ron, you are up first. what was the message to washington? caller: i really think co

, we have the president winning re-election. we have john boehner returning to the speakership. harry reid returning. to being the senate majority leader. and while the status quo was the big winner last tuesday, the history books will not remember the names john boehner and harry reid as long as they will remember what this re-election meant for president barack obama. >> that's exactly right. it is a ratification. it is an affirmation historically. you could argue that maybe one of the reasons he's crying is he's going to have to deal with john boehner and harry reid going forward. so there could be a very practical trigger there. but certainly, i mean, what mike and john have said is exactly right. it's an important moment. he's the third democrat, fourth democrat, to do this in a century. woodrow wilson, franklin roosevelt, bill clinton and barack obama. not bad company to be in. >> by the way, i heard you say that on wednesday morning. who was the democrat -- the last democrat before that to do it? >> well -- >> that's a test. >> -- that is a test. >> jackson? >> i guess it would

country. >> i want to follow up that question and ask neera real quick -- john boehner expressed openness to reductions in spending, reforms, but not structural changes, not ending the federal entitlement to medicare or medicaid, as the ryan budget would do. where do you think that goes after the election? >> i think the president really crossed the rubicon there by putting medicare and medicaid on the table. neera mentioned the budget -- hundreds of billions of dollars in cuts. romney tried to put it back in. i thought it was very ironic. social security? no, it has not been on the table. i think he has already done so and i suspect he will continue to. >> one of the interesting things about that -- we will go to the audience in a minute -- think of the context. medicare is one of the policies that transfers resources down the generational ladder. from the retiring baby boom that is 80% white and moving it into an uninsured younger population, it really in many ways -- the federal government has $700 per capita, something like that -- is striking that under such explicit attack, for kind

. what struck me yesterday with john boehner he was saying as we approach the fiscal cliff, boehner was saying yesterday that the bottom line for republicans after this election is the same as it's been for 22 years. that is, that any kind of income tax hike, especially for the wealthy, is off the table for them. do you have a sense of what the white house is thinking is on the table? we approach january 1st. is it that they are really eager mainly to strike a grand bargain they can sell as a major bipartisan achievement? is the idea of fighting past january 1st if necessary to get rid of the bush tax cuts for the wealthy americans more of a priority for them? >> no. i think they want a deal if they can get it. you're right to listen closely to john boehner, because what he had is he'll accept some revenues in the context of tax reform, a big, wonderful, fuzzy nebulous idea. what he won't expect initially is a change in the rates. of course, that's what it's about. it's about the rates for the highest income earners. and that's where john boehner is refusing to start out in the nego

to tuesday's election results continues in washington. join us. house speaker john boehner will hold a news conference for it later this afternoon, president obama will speak to the nation. we expect him to speak about the upcoming fiscal cliff. that will be live at 1:05 eastern c-span. j kearney has a briefing schedule that is set for 2:00 p.m. eastern. >> if there is a mandate, is a mandate for us to face the challenges we face. in the weeks and months ahead, we faced a series of challenges and great opportunity. >> the american people want us to work together. they want a balanced approach to everything but especially with the huge deficit and taxes. >> the newly elected congress starts work in january. work is expected on the impending fiscal cliff including the expiration of the bush era tax cuts and possible cuts to domestic and military spending. fall all the debates with live house coverage on c-span and the senate on c-span2. there was a conference yesterday. pollsters participated in a town discussion that talked about economic efforts and how this affects lobbying in the lame- du

john boehner and mc mcmcconnell are as good as we have. >>neil: well the president needs speaker boehner more than mcth connell --. bucky>>governor huckabee: both are seasoned washington insiders. the republicans in the senate and the republicans in the house of representatives have to trust and follow their leaders. that will be anathema to a lot of republicans. you cannot have 535 people all negotiating for their particular part of the pie. it can't work. >>neil: who gives? >>governor huckabee: everyone the that is how you govern. >>neil: they have never done that. >>governor huckabee: you have to. >>neil: the president is saying elections have consequences. is the consequence of this, sock the rich? >>governor huckabee: the consequences of the election, we have more governors that are republican, same house of representatives, same senate, same president. meet the new boss, same as the old boss, nothing has changed. what has to change rather than sitting down and starting at point of where they disagree, they need to sit down and start at the point of where they can agree to t

. i think you heard john boehner say that. we've had votes in the senate where we've gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. >> we need the republicans to do in 2012 what we did in 2010. we hear the mandate continue to cut spending, but they have to hear the than date real revenues not like dynamic scoring. >> and here's what happens if no agreement is reached before january 1st.bush tax rates expire. emergency unemployment benefits will end. the 2011 payroll tax holiday expires. and $984 billion in cuts will be triggered. joining me now, andy sullivan and sher a tupletts. what do you expect to come out of the meeting friday and will any real progress made? >> oh, no, but i think the optics will be important. there will beside by side getting their picture taken and i think this will reassure voters and most importantly investors that they are serious about the problem and they want t to get something done before the end of the year. they've pretty much gotten a free ride from the markets. everybody knew this was coming up, but interest rates have remained low and the stock

developed, the way the parties are, tuesday night we are all in this together, boehner comes out the next day, yes, we can work this out, but over time, the reality is still up to very different parties with very different values, very different constituencies, and when republicans starts to get to squishy or a democrat starts to move to the middle, they get pounded on. shawn hannity, rush limbaugh, and shultz, and rachel maddow. i started seeing earlier, getting e-mails from the pccc, which is the progressive change campaign committee, which saw the success of 2010 on the right and said we could do the same thing on the left. there is just more and more movement on the extremes, demanding in the party faithful to stay faithful. we still have primaries and republicans have to figure out a way to avoid todd akins and richard mourdocks. there is no increase in the christine o'donnell vote, the witch vote. the republicans had five seats in the last two cycles for the have sacrificed a seat by nominating sharon engle and christine o'donnell, and now the two this time. republicans are going to

. john boehner doesn't have the leverage he used to have. on a conference call he told house republicans they had to avoid the nasty showdowns that mark so much of the last two years. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell was the number one obstructionist in the president's first term. now he tells "the wall street journal" he'll do whatever it takes to get a deal. i'd be willing to pay the ransom if e we thought we were going to get the hostage out. but the hostage is what? entitlement spending. mcconnell's intention, he's willing to agree to a dollar of new taxes for every dollar in cuts. what a difference an election makes. >> i'm going to ask a question on the stage. they seau had a real spending cuts deal, 10 to 1. spending cuts to tax increases. spooker, you're already shaking your head. but who on this stage would walk away from that deal? would you raise your hand about not raising taxes. >> remember in 2011 republicans would not take a 10 to 1 tax cut deal? now today mitch mcconnell is willing to do a 1 to 1 deal. republicans lost all of their leverage in this election. they

boehner come to an agreement. because i believe anything they agree to is something that will pass the senate. so it's really the house and the presiden president. >> -- is very remote. i think we're more likely to postpone the spending cuts. i think that would be disastrous for the economy. and i think we're likely to let the tax cuts expire than come back in january and cut the taxes for at least 98% of americans. >> joining me now to map out a timeline, nbc white house correspondent mike viqueira who joins me from right there in the white house. so are you getting a sense of the schedule of these events? >> reporter: the schedule is pretty much up in the air. pretty remarkable that john yarmouth, house democrat from kentucky is basically saying let's go over the cliff because we're never going to come to an agreement. the trouble is that cliff if we go over it, the congress at budget office itself says over the next course of the year if those tax cuts kick in, more than $1 trillion in new added taxes to the american people. plus that sequester, that automatic cuts to defense an

to retire. i think mr. john boehner wants to work out a deal. i really do. he has to get through. kantor and some of the others on the extreme right. -- eric cantor and some of those on the right. i do not like the extremism. it is not helpful to the country at all. host: thank you for the call. we read this at the top of the program. on our twitter page, there is this -- nancy cook puts it this way. "game of chicken." her answer, probably not. george is on the phone from the line for republicans. caller: i just think when the voters spoke on the past election that we as citizens are being shortchanged. we vote our -- our constituents voted for representatives, but we are not being represented. in the last 30 days of the campaign, i decided to be an independent. i was not convinced everybody was being fairly treated with the tax cuts. therefore, i believe speaker john boehner, rip cantor, reid, and the president to sit down and realize we elected them to look out for our best interests. what we do not get that, you get the backlash you got on the last election. host: a couple of other op

center, of course there was a but, you heard john boehner in particular, talking about the fact that on the issue that has divided them over the past year or so on this fiscal cliff issue, taxes, saying very clearly he does not want to raise taxes. but he also put out an olive branch, anderson, he said maybe he would be for some kind of -- raising some kind of revenue. he didn't say what that means but talked about broad tax reform as it relates to entitlement reform. on the other side of the capital, you saw right over there, the senate majority leader harry reid feeling like he was leveraging here, it was a clear-cut issue, but also because of the mechanics of it. if nobody does anything, taxes for everybody will go up. so democrats realize that, they feel like any have leverage and they're probably right. >> and there's motivation to try to do something on that. >> exactly. >> there was a private conference call that boehner had with his caucus. what do you know about it? >> we were told this was a call where all house republicans were invited to this. he was very sober and h

with house speaker john boehner. to begin talks on how to prevent the country's economy from going over the so-called fiscal cliff. both boehner and snart majority leader harry reid sounded conciliatory notes yesterday. >> mr. president, this is your moment. we're ready to be led. not as democrats or republicans, but as americans. >> it's better to dance than to fight. it's better to work together. >> boehner even opened the door to raising new revenues, code for taxes, though not through tax rates. he does put on some conditions. >> in order to garner republican support for new revenues, the president must be willing to reduce spending and shore up entitlement programs that are the primary drivers of our debt. >> so that is a shift in a negotiating position. now boehner suggested temporarily extending the current tax rates, pushing serious negotiations on a broader tax deal into 2013. while the president has hinted in the past that he's willing to include the issues of social security and medicare in the fiscal negotiations, what's not clear is whether the rest of his party is going to

appearances tomorrow between speaker john boehner and president barack obama. the speaker will address a crowd of reporters at 11:00 in the morning. he will take questions from the press. we're told obama will speak at 1:00 in the east room of the white house and will not take questions from reporters. there will be an audience there, but he will not be taking questions. meanwhile, we're getting this report out today from the cbo, which is laying out the scenario of just how bad things would be if we go over the fiscal cliff. let me give you a couple of the key bullet points here. the cbo saying if we go over the cliff the gdp would drop by 0.5% in 2013. it could decline in the first half of the year, but then renewed growth later in the year. and the unemployment rate would rise to 9.1% if we go over the fiscal cliff, but ultimately the cbo saying unemployment would decline to 5.5% by 2018. so, larry, this sets the backdrop for the dueling appearances between boehner first then president obama later in the day. tomorrow the question is, can these two men come back to the deal they were doing

guest: john boehner said he was looking for a golf game with the president. i do not know, talking to the obama campaign during the election, they were confronting an angry set of voters, even those who supported them. the theatrics in washington -- we have heard a lot of callers talk about this. i don't know if they have a place right now. this is an extremely urgent thing they have to address. it could have real consequences on recovery, really end it, and i do not think we will see a lot of that. i do not think the president wants to strike that tone. i think it will be pretty serious. it does not mean they will not try to get together in some kind of setting, but i do not think it will be seen the light it was in summer 2011. host: we want to thank our two white house reporters. thank you both for being here. that does it for today's "washington journal." we will be back tomorrow at 7:00 a.m. with more of your questions and comments via phone and twitter. thanks for watching. host: [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satell

to be revenues as well. second, he's rejecting the john boehner approach which is boehner saying i'll agree to revenues as long as they come as a result of economic growth. in other words, we won't legislate changes in taxes. we'll hope that revenues go up. he's saying no, that won't work for me. you're not going to legislate spending cuts. this is the president talking. not legislate revenue changes as well. >> bill: all right. so there are -- the most immediate decision maybe facing the congress is that as you point out, all of the bush tax cuts expire. which means not only the taxes -- tax cuts for the wealthy expire, the tax cuts for those making under $250,000 a year expire as well. so the president said friday all right, the senate has already passed a bill which would give extended tax cutless for the 98%, those making under $250,000. but let the ones for the wealthier people and defined as over $250,000 expire. and he challenged the house of representatives to pass that. what do you think -- so this is a real -- to

, that $1.6 trillion, is twice the amount of revenue that he and boehner put on the table last summer. it's a clear sign to the left that the president has stopped beginning his negotiations from the middle ground, something democrats have often complained about with this president. afl-cio president said he's confident that the president is not going to fold. >> the president led with that notion of protecting the middle class. are we going to collectively stand up and make sure that workers get a fair shake in all of this? absolutely we are. do we believe that the president is committed to that same thing? absolutely we do. will the president show today he's willing to go over the fiscal cliff if reboundians don't make the deal they are satisfied with. in a new pew poll, 50% will not reach an agreement in time. 53% are assuming republicans will be more to blame if no deal is struck. but yesterday minority leader mitch mcconnell, who met with the three gop freshmen, new senators, will join the repub c republican conference, struck a hard line when it came to tax rates. >> in politics th

the excesses' of your first term. john boehner seemed more open to the idea of allowing more revenue, the rate increases on fiscal cliff issue. i think the president, and i know his left wing, is certainly holding him to the pledge on the campaign trail that he will let the proper rate expire at the end of the year and intends to hold his own in arguing for that. host: margaret talev, that brings up the mandate question. does he say what george w. bush said, i have political capital and i intend to spend it? guest: if you have it, use it, or what other people say it for you. right now, president obama's game is not to come out of the box, acting takeda, and give republicans -- acting cocky and giving republicans an idea -- a reason to want to stick it to him. he is saying let's get this done. that is what he is serious about, there is no reason to set yourself up as having more leverage than you do. host: margaret talev, and the go to this headline in bloomberg. what does he do on his health care law, if anything? guest: so, it really is a little bit of the congress, and this will play out in

cliff. what he wants is higher taxes for the top earners. and speaker boehner is already saying on that part of this deal, no-dice. >> racing tax rates is unacceptable. and it couldn't even pass the house. putting increased revenues through reforming the tax code, i would do that if the president were serious about solving our spending problem and trying to secure our entitlement programs. i'm confident he and i can find the common ground necessary. bill: that's the same potion had the weekend before the election. meanwhile there are strong warning the fiscal cliff could have dire consequences. lay out the stakes here. what are they? >> according to the congressional budget office, the bean counters in congress, they say recession. if you cut spending and raise taxes as is planned january 1 you get a recession and a 1.9% -- you get a 9.1% unemployment rate next year. the republicans are saying do not raise tax rates. the democrats are saying, president obama and harry reid are saying tax the rich, raise tax rates. this is all about tax rates. the democrats led by president obama

by house speaker john boehner-- suggested a deal was possible, and invited the president to make a proposal. said boehner, "this is your moment. we want you to lead." >> we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. what matters is where the increased revenue comes from and what type of reform comes with it. does the increased revenue come from what the government taking a larger share of what the american people earn through higher tax rates? or does it come from a byproduct of growing our economy energized by a simpler cleaner fairer tax code with fewer loopholes and lower rates for all. >> reporter: it all signaled a quick return to earth, after the jubilation of election night that swept up even chicago mayor rahm emanuel, during a live interview with the "newshour's" ray suarez. the president built his victory over mitt romney on a series of wins in battleground states, giving him 303 electoral votes-- 33 more than needed. he also was running ahead in florida, for another 29 electoral votes, but the state had not yet been called after long lines on tuesday held up the

a longtime democratic members retiring and been replaced. >> and then you have the fiscal votes. john boehner manage to round up republicans on the oversight of the caucus and joined with nancy pelosi and the government kept running. they put together the budget control act. they put together this bipartisan coalition. nobody wanted to take credit for it because it was embarrassing to the republicans to go back home and say, in the end, we are running the government in a bipartisan way. yes, there will be ideological hotheads. but even among those freshmen, when they start feeling the pressure about the fiscal cliff approaching from the big factories, is that what they really want? i think it will get it done. >> it seems to me, there are two factions of the republican party battling for some kind of super mess. and it is the guys in the beltway, john boehner, mitch mcconnell, the leaders reverses the guys outside the beltway. the guys in iowa, rick santorum, the folks in south carolina who gave the primary to newt gingrich. beyond that, i feel -- ever since george of the bush's second term,

with members of congress. we saw him already reach out by phone to john boehner, to mitch mcconnell, also to leadership in the democratic party. so we'll see if this promise of bipartisanship will last beyond just a couple of days. >> dan lothian for us this morning. thank you, dan. let's get right to john berman with a lack at some of the other stories making news today. good morning. >> good morning, soledad. cnn is projecting that ann kirkpatrick will return to congress. she barely beat republican challenger, jonathan payton. yet several house races are still up for grabs across the country this morning. in palm springs, california, republican mary bono mack, she's not giving up. she trailed democrat raul luis with all precincts reporting, but she says a large number of ballots have yet to be reported. mack's husband, connie mack, lost his bid in florida to bill nelson. in another tight race, alan west is not conceding defeat. he's demanding a partial recount in his re-election bid against democratic challenger patrick murphy. right now murphy has a very slim lead of less than 2,100 vo

is a little smaller, and some of the people who boehner lost are moderates and those who would cut deals, there may be people, particularly as a freshman move into leadership positions -- jim langford is making a bid for policy committee chairmanship, which is sort of a springboard for a lot of people. there seems to be a general calming down among some of but fire breathing. there is potential for some mischief on the floor. as dan neuhauser reported in the house section of the guide, some of the more conservative members of the republican party have contemplated now that the threshold to bring down the bill is smaller they may not even vote for rules. but you also have people who are one year -- only one term in and they have now gone through a disappointing election and they have also seen that there are things they can get done that they feel perhaps they were not able to do in the middle of a debt crisis negotiation and all of the short-term continuing resolutions. so, the tone in the house, i would not be surprised if it ratchets down a teeny little bit because people with a little

with john boehner, the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. is he planning on sitting down with those two republican leaders any time soon? is the white house saying? >> reporter: there's nothing announced for a leaders meeting so far. but i am certain, wolf, that that will be coming because there's such important negotiations ahead. i'm told that the president's conversation with speaker boehner was courteous, it was brief. and i'm told that they also discussed the importance of keeping their public statements vague or general enough so that they leave themselves enough private negotiating room to get a deal done to avoid the fiscal cliff, wolf. >> that's probably smart too. thanks very much for that, jessica. let's dig a little bit deeper right now with our chief political analyst gloria borger. isn't his responsibility right now though to take the first step, offer a proposal to boehner, to mcconnell, to the republicans? we assume that the democrats, nancy pelosi would go along and harry reid would go along with the president. >> well, i think as jessica's saying, the president bel

boehner said it right, we're inviting you to lead. >> the thing that is, cannot be ignored is that we are a year past when we knew the committee -- almost a year past we knew the super committee was want going to reach a decision. if leadership is what was needed and you sign that to president obama, he hasn't done that. we are pushed up against a deadline, with very serious decisions. do you think that the house and the senate and the president will actually resolve this by january 1? or are they going to kick it down the road again? >> ck has a long history of preferring to kick the can down the road. there is no question about that. however, this -- this is a much more serious thing that they have come against than i have ever seen before, in terms of budget and the fiscal cliff. what do you think will happen? hopefully, they will agree a framework. you are not going to do tax reform in the next 6 or 8 weeks. you are not going to do entitlement reform in the next 6 or 8 weeks. we should hope that they get serious together, see a path and say, okay, we are going to take whatever the

. look, i think the white house was pleasantly surprised and open to what john boehner said. i mean, obviously, they appreciated what they thought was a very thoughtful and well thought out position that speaker boehner made publicly about where he sees the negotiations, where he's publicly putting out there where he's willing to move for now. obviously, everything's in negotiation, everything's a little bit of posturing. but it certainly was a much different tone, for instance, than what came out of mitch mcconnell's office office the election, and we've plowed through that plenty. i think what you're going to see now is the white house wants to attack a little bit of time, be thoughtful how public -- what they say publicly versus how much maneuverer ability is there. the other unnamed player is chuck shumer. chuck schumer publicly said i like simpson bowls in the it made an effort but i don't like what they're trying to do with taxes. we can't do this with tax reform. taxes should go up. he wants to move the negotiating position on the democrats in a little bit of a different dire

boehner today or not? >> no. this was no olive branch, larry. i was quite disappointed with that speech and press conference. and you noted that the stock market really collapsed as president obama was speaking because he seems not just today but the event that he had on friday, the two statements that he's made, he's been pretty emphatic that he wants those tax rates to go up, come hell or high water. that is going to lead to a mexican standoff with the republicans if he sticks with that position. i'd like to make one other point about that press conference, larry. i listened to the whole 45 minutes to 60-minute press conference, and not once that i could hear in that speech did he talk about the most important thing, which is cutting government spending. why don't we get the government spending down and then talk about raising taxes? >> you know, if you google up spending and obama, you know what you get? nothing. blank pages. you get nothing. >> in fact, larry, he said he wants his $100 billion stimulus, he wants more spending when he's talking -- trying to talk about lowering the de

and house speaker john boehner. and analysis from the national journal. last night and democrats held on to their senate majority. harry reid talked about the election results. we will hear from republican john bellair. -- john boehner. >> i am glad to be back. it was a late night, early morning. to it is clearly we're going increase our majority. but the results show a number of things. a number of things for certain. one is that we're the party of diversity. look at the results from all over the country. i'm looking forward to working with so many great accomplished centers. i have talked to virtually everyone of them. when i came to the senate, barbara mikulski was it as far as women. now one-third of our caucus is women. the remarkable work done by all these great centers to be. but the election is over and we have enormous challenges ahead of us. they're right here. and we have to sit down and go to work on it now, not wait. this was the message the american people sent from all over and that is they're tired of these partisan gridlocks. they're tired of things like i have one go

steinhouser is following all the developments. >> you were just showing pictures of house speaker john boehner, the top republican in congress, and harry reid, the senate majority leader, he's the top democrat in congress. they came before our cameras yesterday in washington, john. they did talk about the election being a voice from the american voters for a call for compromise. and you heard both men talking about working together to fix the country's problems along with the president. but at the same time, you also heard both men laying down markers and both men disagreeing on whether whether it comes to the fiscal cliff the wealthy should be taxed. take a look at what they said. >> it won't solve the problem of our fiscal imbalance overnight. certainly won't do it in a lame duck session of congress. and it won't be solved simply by raising taxes or taking a plunge off the fiscal cliff. >> the vast majority of the american people rich, poor, everybody agrees that the rich, richest of the rich have to help a little bit. >> another disagreement, john boehner the house speaker talking about doi

cliff. -- and john boehner talked about the fiscal flat. president obama will be at the riesling say -- wreath laying ceremony 11 am eastern on c- span. >> 2013 should be the year we begin to solve our debt through tax and form an entitlement reform. i propose we avert the fiscal cliff together in a manner that ensures the 2013 is the year are government comes to grips with the major problems facing us. >> i am open to compromise. i am open to new ideas. i am committed to solving our fiscal challenges. but, i did used to expect -- except in the approach that is not balanced. i will not ask students and seniors and middle-class families to pay down the entire deficit while people like me making over $250,000 aren't asked to pay a dime more in taxes kerry >> the newly elected congress starts work and to january but the current congress has work to do at the end of the year. work is expected on the impending fiscal cliff, x -- including the expiration of the bush eric tax cuts, raising the debt ceiling implant gus to domestic and military spending. loorow all the florida th debates. >>

conflicting messages in the last few days. john boehner started with the tough-minded might message election eve -- "we have as big a mandate as he does with the returning republican majority in the house -- but then moved to softer rhetoric -- "we want to work with the president. we understand there have to be some revenues." if you parcel out a statement, it was additional revenues by cutting taxes further, because if you cut the tax rates, the revenues will come in. that is not quite the same thing. it also reminds me of what we saw with rhetoric in december and january of 2008, 2009. "we want to work with the president on a stimulus package," and then not a single republican vote. as we learned in our research as it was reported in a fine book on the stimulus, when david obey called in his counterpart jerry lewis to discuss it, he said, "jerry, we're going to do a stimulus. the country is back on its back. i want you to go back your leaders and find out what they would like included, but tell me the things you would not accept." lewis laughed, and pointed up and said, "i'm sorry, david,

boehner. he did say we're open to revenue. but then he immediately said but as long as none of the revenue is coming from our rich friends. he repeated that because the rich people are job creators and you can't -- you can't tax them anymore. don't put too much faith into what john boehner had to say yesterday. it was an opening but not a done deal yet. >> yeah. >> bill: kala is in valdosta, georgia. hi kayla. >> bill: great victory huh? >> caller: i actually fell in above with barack obama in 2004 at the dnc. i was a sophomore in high school. [ laughter ] >> bill: good for you. >> caller: i was actually living in ohio at the time. i said that man's going to be the first black president of the united states. i got my butt laughed off. >> bill: you never fell out of love with him. >> no. i ran georgia southern students for barack obama in 2008. >> bill: wow! yeah. >> caller: i'm -- i'm 24 now and i'm black and i'm a female and he's for education. he's for helping people helping themselves and i think th

working across the aisle. yesterday john boehner said he would work. and harry reid mentioned he likes to dance but can fight. >> the american people have spoke yen they reelected president obama and again a republican majority in the house of representatives and there is a man date in yesterday's results it is a man date for us to work together on the solutions and challenges that we face as a nation. >> the american people us to work together . i know how to fight and i know how to dance. i don't dance as well as i fight but i would rather dance any time. the way to get things done to work at this time. we need republicans to help us. i repeat to have the leader of the republicans in the senate say his number one goal to defeat obama and that's how we legislated. >> steve: that was two days ago. come on and smell the poll results. say we hold a majority in the house of representative and so we have a man date as well >> gretchen: this is what the american people are so tired of. listening to the back and forth and back and forth and nothing gets done. nothing gets done. if you want m

the pipeline. mapped door budget cuts kick in in 54 days. house speaker john boehner says it is time for the president to lead. here he is is talking about that. >> mr. president, this is your moment. we're ready to be lead, not as democrats or republicans but americans. we want you to lead, not as a liberal or conservative but as president of the united states of america. we want you to succeed. bill: stuart varney, anchor of "varney & company", fox business network. the issues on the table are the same issues as monday. we want you to succeed by the way. what did you hear or what are you hearing based on the statements out of the washington now? >> three statements to listen to very carefully. speaker boehner, senate majority leader harry reid, and the big union boss, richard trumka. if you add them all together, tell you exactly what they said in a moment, add them all together the outlines of a deal would look like this. this is on the fiscal cliff. the outlines would possibly look like this. raise taxes, certainly raise tax revenues right now, beginning next year. promise to cut

that nancy -- nancy pelosi and john boehner don't do that? [applause] >> they don't really socialize. one reason that joe might work together, i knew joe and i love him. i wouldn't do anything mean to joe. so that is a lot of it. the times have changed so much. in the senate, one of the problems as they got away from regular order. you send a bill to a committee. you have an oversight hearing, you have an amendment coming u-boat, you go to the full committee and the house and then you go to conference. but they wound up getting a transportation bill. it's a combination of things. modern technology, frankly it is a 24/7 news media. it is the fact that the members leave their families back home. you can't be a good legislator two and half days a week. you have to work at it. the combination of those things, it contributed to the partisanship and the gridlock that we have now. the answer is simple. it is called leadership. men and women of goodwill, conservative liberals, republicans, and the president -- they say it is an easy and we have to get results. >> so i want to come back to that. l

obama and house speaker john boehner pledging to work together this time around with the threat of the fiscal cliff just months away. is it just talk or are they actually going to find common ground before it is too late? we'll talk about that. >>> plus the deadly disease that can be predicted by visible signs of aging. we'll talk about that with a doctor coming up. >>> armed motor thieves racing through a busy mall. how about that? the jewelry store heist caught on tape. it's all "happening now.". jenna: hi, everybody. great to have you with us today. i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. lots to get too today. we want to get started what is going on in the northeast. mother nature package powerful punch hitting an area still recovering from superstorm sandy d a strong nor'easter dumping freezing rain and snow on new york and new jersey. this winery mix coming at the worst possible time with hundreds of thousands of people still waiting for electricity to be restored after sandy. no power means no heat as temperatures plunge. steve centanni is live in new jersey. steve? >> reporte

not be surprised. even though the republican majority is a little smaller. and some of the people that boehner lost are moderates and the type of people that would want to cut deals. there may be people as the freshman move into leadership positions. jim langford is making a bid for the policy committee chairmanship, a springboard for a lot of people there seems to be a general calming down among some of the fire breathing. you know there is the potential for mischief on the floor. some of the news reported that the more conservative members of the republican party contemplated now the threshold for bringing down a bill is even smaller that they might not even vote for rules. that potential for mischief. and the people one term in that have now gone through a disappointing election. they have also seen that there are things that they can get done that perhaps they were not able to do in the middle of the debt crisis, making a negotiation. so the tone in the house, i would not be surprised if it racheted down a tiny bit. people are just with a little bit of experience and a few more gray hairs they

that in place we are removing half of the fiscal cliff. >> speaker john boehner offered what he considers a balanced approach generating the revenue from tax reform and entitlement reform. late today, boehner said the president's position is flawed. >> we are not going to hurt our economy an make job creation more difficult. which is exactly what that plan would do. >> letter sent by the u.s. chamber of commerce and signed by 232 organizations calls on the president and congress to immediately extend all the tax cuts and find other cuts to replace sequestration. the president suggested taking a closer look at reforming entitlements without offing details and says he would like to simplify the tax code. mr. obama says he wants congress to act now to extend tax cut for middle class and try to avoid boxing himself in on upcoming negotiation. >> i'm open to come plo mize and new ideas. i have been encouraged for republicans to agree to more revenue as part of the arithmetic if we are serious to reduce deficit. >> the top republican in senate who is a key player in upcoming talks says raising

are all in this together, boehner comes out the next day, yes, we can work this out, but over time, the reality is still up to very different parties with very different values, very different constituencies, and when republicans starts to get to squishy or a democrat starts to move to the middle, they get pounded on. shawn hannity, rush limbaugh, and shultz, and rachel matskmad. i started seeing earlier, getting e-mails from the pccc, which is the progressive change campaign committee, which saw the success of 2010 on the right and said we could do the same thing on the left. there is just more and more movement on the extremes, demanding in the party faithful to stay faithful. we still have primaries and republicans have to figure out a way to avoid tied aid in -- todd akins and richard mourdocks. there is no increase in the christine o'donnell vote, the witch vote. the republicans had five seats in the last two cycles for the have sacrificed a seat by nominating sharon engle and christine o'donnell, and now the two this time. republicans are going to have to figure out how to do

that obammal triangulate, moderate? >> i agree. >> sean: i am looking at john boehner tonight. i am thinking, he was the headline on abc world news, boehner exclusive, raising taxes, new revenue on the table. why is he caving when obama is the one who needs this deal more than anybody? why is he caving before it starts? >> he is caving because he knows there has to be a deal. the market was down 4 50 points in two days? >> that's the pressure on obama. >> but after an election that you lose, the american people want conciliation. center-right country doesn't mean-- >>> we there to go. >> i don't think we lost the election. we held the congress. >> same thing. >> sean: all of this process, we are in the same boat we were in before. >> $300 billion-- >>> $6 trillion in new obama debt. harry reid took his victory lap and delivered some disturbing remarks, he has ideas about limiting republicans' ability to oppose democratic initiatives in the senate. are we looking at serious abuse of power? will he be successful? will republicans hold the line? that's all coming up. how can you get back pain r

for the democratic leadership, speaker boehner also intends to stay on, so we'll be seeing some of these elections take place but the big surprise is not a surprise, she's staying put. >> nbc's kelly o'donnell on capitol hill for us. kelly, thanks so much. >>> there is an awful lot happening from capitol hill and during what is expected to be the lame duck session i'll talk with maxine waters next. >>> then just over two hours until the president's news conference, first one difference re-election. what do you think the first question will be? reporters asking about what? tweet me at thomas a. roberts or find me on facebook, thomas a. roberts on msnbc. again? it's embarrassing it's embarrassing! we can see you carl. we can totally see you. come on you're better than this...all that prowling around. yeah, you're the king of the jungle. have you thought about going vegan carl? hahaha!! you know folks who save hundreds of dollars by switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than antelope with night-vision goggles. nice! get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you f

of a change. john boehner will be the speaker of the house, you know, unless something unforeseen happens in the next few weeks. he will be, he will keep the reign. the republicans gained, you know, a few seats, but that's not really going to effect his shot. he ran unopposed in ohio for his own race, and the defining conflict of the republican conference in the 112th congress, this sort of conflict between eric cantor, the majority leader, and john boehner, the speaker, is really behind them at least, you know, from everything that we have seen. the -- so that is remarkably stable, the first three positions. john boehner will be, you know, the next speaker, eric cantor will be the majority leader, and kevin mccarthy will be the majority whip. where it starts to get interesting is for the conference chairman position. this is currently held by jeb hensarling who is making a bid to be the financial services chairman. hensarling has been a sort of rising star for a while within republican ranks. he was a republican study committee chairman which is sort of the top conservative position in r

but democrats as well, the president reaching out to speaker boehner by phone and mitch mcconnell in the senate and to democratic leadership. the president telling them that he is committed to finding a bipartisan solution to some of the tough problems, such as cutting taxes for middle class americans, creating jobs. what's unclear at this point is what else will the president do beyond making phone calls? will he be invoighting the leadership here to the wit house? will they be having retreats elsewhere? what is cloer is already up on capitol hill the loweredship is talking about getting things done. >> by working together and creating a fairer, simpler, cleaner tax code we can give our country a stronger, healthier economy. a stronger economy means more revenue, which is what the president seeks. >> this isn't something that i'm going to draw the lines any lines in the sand. he isn't going to draw any lines in the sand, i don't believe. we need to work together. >> the president said he believes the message that the americans sent in the election is that they want members of congress, both pa

it doesn't matter. the president won the popular vet. the congress is still split with speaker boehner controlling the house. majority leader harry reid running the senate. ed henry covers the white house for us. what do we know about how the president celebrated? >> well, shep, can i tell new talking to his senior aides they are elated about the electoral college and they feel that the president does have a mandate now to move forward. he was sort of keeping a profile. he was in chicago, he and his family got together to come back here to washington. just arrived at the white house a few moments ago. all smiles, of course. he also made a quick stop at his campaign office today to thank supporters and staffers and whatnot. they realize they can't spend so too much time celebrating. his aides say they have to get to work. that's what the president talked about last night in terms of a second term agenda. take a listen. >> i am looking forward to reaching out and working with leaders of both parties to meet the challenges we can only solve together, reducing other diversify silt. reformi

. it's good for america to see this. john boehner coming out today. harry reid as well. boehner said, we can't keep setting the bar that low. it is time we raise the bar. i loved what he said about we are ready to be led not as democrats or republicans, but as americans, not as a liberal or conservative, but as the president of the united states. >> that's the quote mark alluded to. you hope in light -- dual messages last night. the country overwhelmingly elected barack obama back to office. more democrats in the senate and the house. on the other side. popular vote very close. obama, up by 3 million votes. very close race. that was a message, not a mandate. so there is a middle ground that you hope they both seek out. because the electorate did send dual messages last night. >> one headline, the divided states of america. it is a little divided. we need some healing, neosporin and a band-aid. >>> yeah. asian stocks tumbled overnight after a steep drop on wall street. global investors are nervous about new forecasts that show slow slow economic growth in europe well into next year. b

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